Aloha Kakou! This is a genuine question on my part. I notice a lot of Christian usages of Ke Akua. Is this the Christian God?? I am a pagan/Heathen and I worship the Old Gods of my Anglo-Saxon ancestors, as well as, the gods of my education. I do not worship the Hawaiian Gods because I don’t know how to feed them or other things. Are there any Kanaka Maoli that worship the old gods? I remember years back I walked in a march for Independence for the Hawaiian Kingdom, I was with my Halau Hula, and I saw men walking quite determinedly in white malo my kumu said they were followers of Lono. Comments?? Mahalo nui loa kakou!
Aloha Christopher,
I worship my ‘aumakua and akua everyday. The practice is really quite misunderstood these days, but it definitely is alive and well with some of us.
Aloha Kaua Mahina! How wonderful that you replied. And, if you don’t mind Mahina/The Moon in my ancestral old religion is a God and very very important in the cycle of the Festivities of the Year. So, a Big Mahalo to you for your heartfelt reply.
Mahalo to Kalani Kalima and all others who helped get this Celebration on! I will be waving my Hawaiian Flag proudly on OUR Independence Day from Kaiwa to Kaupo! I was wondering if it would be appropriate to make signs that state: “No Treaty of Annexation”, “Hawaiian Kingdom under Illegal Occupation since 1898” , “Show me the Title” or any other signs to that effect?
“Hawaii–A U.S. State or a country under U.S. occupation?”
To me, saying how people should think such as telling one person that there is no treaty of annexation is not a good approach to spread the truth in my opinion. Because to me, our propaganda history books have already done a masterful job at telling people how they should think such as saying that “Hawaii is part of the United States…….” which we all know is a lie, but that’s all part of the indoctrination and that’s what this education is–to QUESTION that indoctrination we’ve all had since childhood. To me, as what Dr. Sai has been teaching all of us all these years, we should ASK the right questions! Such as that idea I stated for example. Make people see that and ask them which is true. Are we legally part of the United States or are we still a country under a foreign occupation?
The first thing one would say is “yes Hawaii is a part of the United States.” Next question I would ask: “If that is true, how come the U.S. Government cannot provide proof that it is?” Then I’m sure they’ll say “uhhhhh” and then possibly say that Hawaii became the 50th State of United States in 1959……..Then I would say, “you’re not answering my question” and explain why the 1959 election doesn’t make Hawaii a part of the United States.
Its all about asking the right questions to make one see sense. Unless they’re defiant–well that sadly cannot be helped.
You’re welcome, Tatiana. Give it a try and see what happens! By asking the right questions, one who is wise will start using their head and see what makes sense. The rest is up to them to study Hawaii’s legal history.
Mahalo Ke Akua
Aloha Kakou! This is a genuine question on my part. I notice a lot of Christian usages of Ke Akua. Is this the Christian God?? I am a pagan/Heathen and I worship the Old Gods of my Anglo-Saxon ancestors, as well as, the gods of my education. I do not worship the Hawaiian Gods because I don’t know how to feed them or other things. Are there any Kanaka Maoli that worship the old gods? I remember years back I walked in a march for Independence for the Hawaiian Kingdom, I was with my Halau Hula, and I saw men walking quite determinedly in white malo my kumu said they were followers of Lono. Comments?? Mahalo nui loa kakou!
Aloha Christopher,
I worship my ‘aumakua and akua everyday. The practice is really quite misunderstood these days, but it definitely is alive and well with some of us.
Aloha Kaua Mahina! How wonderful that you replied. And, if you don’t mind Mahina/The Moon in my ancestral old religion is a God and very very important in the cycle of the Festivities of the Year. So, a Big Mahalo to you for your heartfelt reply.
Mahalo to Kalani Kalima and all others who helped get this Celebration on! I will be waving my Hawaiian Flag proudly on OUR Independence Day from Kaiwa to Kaupo! I was wondering if it would be appropriate to make signs that state: “No Treaty of Annexation”, “Hawaiian Kingdom under Illegal Occupation since 1898” , “Show me the Title” or any other signs to that effect?
Here’s one idea, Tatiana:
“Hawaii–A U.S. State or a country under U.S. occupation?”
To me, saying how people should think such as telling one person that there is no treaty of annexation is not a good approach to spread the truth in my opinion. Because to me, our propaganda history books have already done a masterful job at telling people how they should think such as saying that “Hawaii is part of the United States…….” which we all know is a lie, but that’s all part of the indoctrination and that’s what this education is–to QUESTION that indoctrination we’ve all had since childhood. To me, as what Dr. Sai has been teaching all of us all these years, we should ASK the right questions! Such as that idea I stated for example. Make people see that and ask them which is true. Are we legally part of the United States or are we still a country under a foreign occupation?
The first thing one would say is “yes Hawaii is a part of the United States.” Next question I would ask: “If that is true, how come the U.S. Government cannot provide proof that it is?” Then I’m sure they’ll say “uhhhhh” and then possibly say that Hawaii became the 50th State of United States in 1959……..Then I would say, “you’re not answering my question” and explain why the 1959 election doesn’t make Hawaii a part of the United States.
Its all about asking the right questions to make one see sense. Unless they’re defiant–well that sadly cannot be helped.
Aloha
Mahalo for your reply, Iolani and especially for reminding me what Dr. Sai often tries to instill in us, ask the right questions!
You’re welcome, Tatiana. Give it a try and see what happens! By asking the right questions, one who is wise will start using their head and see what makes sense. The rest is up to them to study Hawaii’s legal history.